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Jan 26, 2023Liked by Joel Carini

Really enjoying your writing. Thank you!

Have you considered perhaps that the insistence on “Common Grace” in Reformed circles has do so with the theological doctrine (or, I would argue, pre-supposition) of Total Depravity. It seems to me that if the will and mind are so corrupt as to be useless for interacting with truth as expressed in Nature, then “Grace” is indeed the proper term when an unbeliever sees a truth in Nature.

Perhaps I’m mixing categories though. I’m no philosopher!

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Andrew, that's it! Now, I'm not sure whether you are in favor of common grace and total depravity or against, but here's what I think (summarized from my two recent articles on common grace and nature):

I think "total depravity" is taken to have the effects on the will and mind that you mention and that that is why "common grace" gets brought in to explain non-Christian truth-finding. I think this is wrong on both counts - though I also think it is an incorrect interpretation of total depravity and common grace.

This perspective amounts to the fall having destroyed human nature, which is not biblical teaching, and it is empirically disprovable: Here we are - nature not destroyed.

In place of that, I argue for nature being fallen but not destroyed (wounded, but not destroyed). And nature is sufficient to explain unbelievers seeing truth in nature. Common grace doesn't need to be called in. (Unless you're very careful about what "Common grace" means - like Bavinck is, for example. That's a start on an answer, but check out my previous two articles.

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Jan 26, 2023Liked by Joel Carini

I'm rather against total depravity (perhaps because it's often *explained* as a corruption of human nature, before it’s then *applied* as a destruction of human nature). However, I can get on board with "fallen but not destroyed".

That said, there seems to be a disconnect between "fallen but not destroyed", which presumably would allow even a fallen human to occasionally recognize objective 'goods' seen in Nature, and the state that Reformed folks suggest that mankind is in spiritually. Often humans are described as "dead" (Lazarus dead) rather than "dead" (Prodigal dead). Therefore, as it goes, pre-faith regeneration is necessary to even believe the gospel.

With that view of the spiritual state of man, it’s no wonder that Reformed circles have difficulty with the idea of Nature as a real representation/source of truth to all of mankind. It seems to follow that a “dead” unbeliever would have no actual ability to discern truth from Nature any more than he could discern the truth of the gospel. Some sort of grace appears necessary to discern truth at all… (whether the prevenient “grace” of the Arminian or the pre-faith regeneration / common grace of the Calvinist)…

Isn’t Nature as a source of truth meaningless if that turn is imperceptible or non-discernible? Notably, Paul seems to argue in Romans 1:20 that Nature *is* discernible such that it condemns the unbeliever as he suppresses the truth that he plainly sees.

Maybe I’m missing something, but it seems that the sticking point is the nature (pun!) of mankind’s “dead”-ness. What do you think?

Additional Note: Doesn’t the contrasting “alive”-ness of the believer (v.s the Lazarus "dead"-ness of the unbeliever) create the sort of gnostic mentality you mention in this post?

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Andrew, you're definitely inspiring another post in my Common Grace Theology series. I think you hit the nail on the head. "Total depravity is often explained as a corruption of human nature, before it's then applied as a destruction of human nature." Little Wittgensteinian move here: "Total depravity" is a term that has its home in the five points of Calvinism, in the realm of soteriology. It's introduced to argue that, in a fallen condition, no human being has so much as libertarian free will to choose or refuse the gospel offer. It's in this sense that human beings are considered spiritually "dead."

But then, there's an extension of that to all human activity. Not only can we not do an act of, you might say, supernatural good; fallen human beings cannot do any act of even natural good. Given that people do do good as fallen, this must be chalked up to divine, non-soteriological influence: "Common Grace."

I would argue that that extension is just that, an extension; total inability to do "supernatural good" with regard to acceptance of Christ for salvation does not imply inability to do "natural good." So spiritual deadness in the first sense does not imply deadness in the second.

We can easily defend the first point of Calvinism simply by saying that fallen man's ability extends ONLY so far as to do natural good, not to do supernatural good (which in this Calvinist account would mean repentance and faith as denying or transcending fallen nature). Why being unable to do one thing would mean one's inability to do anything is beyond me!

Now, one problem could be the terminology itself. If you wanted to argue that man could do natural good but just couldn't repent and believe without supernatural assistance, would you choose "total depravity" to express this? People will sometimes distinguish it from "utter depravity," but "total" and "utter" don't sound very distinct. I should say more in a future post about this - I know there is the motivation of saying that even every natural act of fallen man is vitiated by sin; I think someone like Turretin distinguishes being able to do a good work formally, and the material or spiritual inward aspect of a good work.

Skipping to the topic of "Nature as a source of truth": Yes! It's meaningless if it is imperceptible and unknowable. Van Tillians in particular love to officially affirm that there is general revelation, and then they make it epistemically inaccessible to man. I've gradually shifted to thinking that if you don't affirm the epistemic accessibility, the knowability of nature, then you don't really affirm a robust, integral metaphysics of nature. Epistemology and metaphysics can't be separated.

And finally, yes, the sort of aliveness of a believer on this account is a magical ability to get every answer right while everyone else is in utter ignorance! It's absurd. In my time at Westminster Seminary, we only read Reformed literature or read non-Reformed literature in order to critique it. From there, I went to UChicago, where the reading room included this phrase, etched in stone: "Read, neither to believe nor to contradict, but to understand." It was so much more humane and healthy. Down with Christian gnosticism! Up with Christian humanism!

Cheers,

Joel

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Perceiving one's opponent as bad is rational, if one really is convinced of one's position. Nor is humility, if genuine and not thinly veiled cynicism or cowardice, sufficient to banish the suspicion. Miroslav Volf said it best when, to paraphrase, he made it clear that he was only able to be a pacifist in light of the eschatological judgment of God. The truly strong, right, etc. may be meek, humble, etc. not because they are uncertain but precisely because they are certain, just not in themselves.

The angst and vitriol of so many who claim Christ is a sign of insecurity in their convictions. Such people lack faith, which erodes their hope and, ultimately, cools the fire of their love. We fear the wrong, bad people because we think that God is too distant, weak-willed, or distracted to protect us from the suffering, malice, and hatred that is historically ubiquitous and, for those without naive delusions of utopia before the eschaton, more probable than not for any faithful Christians.

We shouldn't avoid loving the people of the world and doing good to them because they might turn on us and dig Brutus' dagger into our kidneys: rather, we ought to love and do good knowing that we will all answer to the judge and avenger, in hopes that they see our good works, glorify God, repent, and be saved. This is not least because the holy God sent His Son to die for us while we were still sinners and, aside from that, sends His rain on the just and unjust alike.

The elder qualifications require a "good reputation" among unbelievers and Paul tells us to be at peace with all men, as far as it depends on us, which makes the idea of total withdrawal or open warfare (which is to be waged against demons) patently opposed to Christian maturity, much less leadership.

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