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Spouting Thomas's avatar

Good thoughts.

Though as long as we're making a pragmatic appeal to Christianity to secular conservatives, I can't help but think of the subject of women. All of these secular intellectual right ideas sound extremely male. Which is well and good when we're just sitting around discussing ideas with the boys, I like discussing ideas with the boys as much as anyone, but I *live* with a woman.

Christianity is an actual thing in the real world that real women participate in enthusiastically and will help train your kids to participate in enthusiastically. Not only that, but these women are generally more marriageable than the American median. Including, as an example, my own excellent wife. But the truth is if I weren't married to her, there's a surplus of single conservative Christian women of basically good character.

But I've never met a woman with Nietzschean sympathies. Ayn Rand was a woman, though it turns out not a marriageable one, even though she married. I'm sure some exist on Twitter, but there's probably a lot of grift and/or attention-seeking behavior going on there. In actuality, a man's personal Nietzschean or Evolian project sounds like something his wife -- if he has a wife -- is just going to roll her eyes at, unless she's one in a million. And I'm inclined to think that one in a million is likely to be weird and maybe a little crazy.

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Travis Monteleone's avatar

Fascinating piece. A great article from National Affairs in 2014 (linked below) describes the five conceptions of liberty in the American tradition. It argues the intellectual right can still advocate for liberty, but a more communitarian/republican form of liberalism as it was understood around the founding, separate and distinct from natural rights liberalism. I think this secular communitarianism (with heavy, but not explicit, Christian influence) offers a third way in addition to your religious right and vitalist/ethnic right. Curious how you think about these various conceptions of liberty fitting into the framework you lay out above.

https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-five-conceptions-of-american-liberty

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