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Matthew's avatar

Can I ask what you mean by the category "natural"? If nature is a synonym for creation, then angels and immaterial human minds are natural, and this is not what we usually mean by the word.

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Cheryl Molin's avatar

Good discussion.

About 15 years ago, I took a "worldview test," not out of any real curiosity whether I would "pass it" and be considered to think Christianly, but out of curiosity for what the questions would be on such a quiz. Well, I gave the "right" answer to every question but one, as per the grading of the test: I said that there was a distinction between the sacred and the secular (much like the biblical distinction between the holy and the common, I would add).

BTW, there are two or more definitions to many words, and I would point out that not all "naturalists" believe that nature is distinct from creation. That is, a person who studies nature, but is not a scientist, is called a naturalist. I consider myself a naturalist by that definition, and I use "nature" and "creation" interchangeably.

I haven't particularly studied the two kingdom/ one kingdom distinction, but some of my favorite theologians are convinced of two kingdoms. My understanding is that two kingdoms has a more thorough understanding of the already/not yet of eschatology. Christ is already Lord over all, but He is not yet acknowledged by those who haven't come under His rule.

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